Interview With John Houghton
John Houghton on Culver in his new novel, Rough Magicke
Author/Interview by Jeff Kenney: Jeffery P Kenney
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Rough Magicke Paperback – April 1, 2005 by John William Houghton (Author)
Publisher: UNLIMITED PUBLISHING LLC and Harvardwood Books (April 1, 2005) |
John Houghton grew up in Culver graduated from Culver Academy in the 1970s. He went on to receive
degrees from Harvard, Yale, Notre Dame, and Indiana University, among others, and has taught at
Notre Dame as well as in Georgia, Baton Rouge, and at Culver Academy. His latest book,
Rough
Magicke, was just published in April 2005 by Unlimited Publishing of Bloomington (an
earlier collection,
Falconry and Other Poems, was published by Unlimited in 2003), and is
a novel employing elements of fantasy, religion, mystery, history, and interestingly enough, a
great deal of local history and lore. Much of the book is set in Culver and Culver and the
Culver Academy are prominently featured in the story.
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Following is an interview with Mr. Houghton about his connections to Culver, the Culver-related
content of the book, and the book in general |
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Q: First of all, of course, you are no stranger to Culver and the
Culver area. Can you give us some background and history of
yourself and your family's involvement in the area? |
A: Well, I was adopted, and brought here when I was about six months
old, by Forrest and Leta (Kingery) Houghton, so I really don't
remember any home but Culver. Mother's family had moved here
from Flora, Indiana, where the Kingerys had been pioneers, when
she was six; my grandfather Kingery worked with his
brother-in-law, J. M. Miller, at Miller's Dairy for some years,
then took over the Cloverleaf Dairy himself.
My father's mother's family were Decks, from down in Delong, and his
father's family descended from two brothers, James and John Houghton,
who were pioneers in southern Indiana, then came up here with the first
wave of settlement in Marshall County in the 1830s. John's
son-in-law, Bayless Dixon (he was married to Emma
Houghton) founded Union Town in the south-west part of his farm in 1844,
then sold it to John's son, Thomas K. Houghton, which is when the
name was changed to Marmont.
Then Thomas K. Houghton sold the
north part of the farm — the part that wasn't in the village of
Marmont — to my own great-great-grandfather, James's son, Thomas
Houghton. That chunk adjoined grandfather Thomas's main farm,
on the northwest corner of 17th Road and Highway 17,
across from the old Three Sisters. Over the years slices of
what grandfather Thomas bought from his cousin have been gradually added
back on to the north edge of town, most recently my great-aunt
Ethel's land across from the high school.
Anyway, I grew up here pretty much the way everyone does,
surrounded by lots of cousins, descended in my case from the Millers and
the Decks and the Houghton's (including a number of Joneses and
Prossers). I used to really like the Deck family reunion, which
was always held on my birthday. I forget how old I was when it
was explained to me that it was actually held on
great-grandfather John Deck's birthday, which happened to be
the same as mine (which also explains why I was named first for him and
then for my great-grandfather William Houghton, rather than the
other way around). I took piano lessons from your grandmother,
and then later from my great-aunt Ethel. When I was small, we
had a farm south of town, on Road 110, where we raised hogs and
soybeans. (You'll remember that there's a soybean field at one
point in Rough Magicke.)
I went to school through eighth grade in what was then the “new”
elementary school and in the old high school building, and had
classes with Alice McLane, Florence Page, Dorothy Manis, Bill
Harris... the same names a lot of people around town remember.
Summers, I went to Woodcraft and Naval School, and then in
ninth grade I started at the Academy, where I was in the class
of 1971. |
Q: What have you been up to, generally, since you left Culver after
graduating from the Academy? |
A: Mostly either going to school or teaching. I was an undergraduate
at Harvard, and took a master's in English at IU Bloomington;
then many years later I went back to graduate school, and took
a master's in religion at Yale Divinity School and Berkeley
Divinity School (the Episcopal part of Yale), then a master's
and doctorate in medieval studies up at Notre Dame. I've taught
at the Academy, at a school in Georgia, at two different schools
in St. Louis, and most recently I was the chaplain at a school in Baton
Rouge. This fall, I'm starting a new position as chair of the
English Department at Canterbury School over in Fort Wayne.
I've had summer jobs at Woodcraft Camp, Specialty Camps and the
Naval School — lately I've been spending the summers with an
American summer camp in Oxford, England, which gives me a
chance to visit my English cousins at least once a year. And, as
you know, I even wrote a column for the Citizen, thirty years
ago, on local history.
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Q: So you've been all over the world, really, from Harvard to Notre Dame,
England to Baton Rouge...what motivated you to set this novel -- fictionally
at least -- in this rural little Indiana town on the shores of Lake
Maxinkuckee? |
A: Partly, I suppose, it's just a matter of writing about what you
know; and partly, too, it was sort of sentimental for me,
living in Missouri and Louisiana and such, to be writing a
story that had a lot of Hoosier connections. Obviously, living
on Houghton Street in Houghton's Addition to Culver, I was
bound to grow up with a certain sense of place. But then, too,
I wanted to write a story about magic and supernatural happenings, and I
think stories like that gain from having a very ordinary
background. And after all there was a certain amount of odd
stuff that used to go on, superstitious stuff, at the least — I'm
sure some people still plant according to the sign of the moon,
and my grandfather Kingery used to have things he would do to
heal people, like “measuring” babies who weren't growing well. |
Q: There are a number of "Culver" connections in the
book: people, places, traditions. Can you discuss some of that
for those who haven't yet read the book? What are some of the
fun little clues that local people will immediately"get" which
others who are less familiar with Culver, the Academy, and the
Lake, might not? |
A: Sure, I'll try. Of course, the most obvious thing is just having
the story set at a military academy in a small town on a large
lake in north central Indiana — that kind of narrows things down
a bit! Then the county seat in the story is Withougan, which,
spelled with a “y,” is a name associated with
Plymouth. We find out that the old railroad north of Annandale was the
Nickle Plate Line, which is the road that ran through Burr
Oak before it was merged into the Norfolk and Western in 1964.
And there's a neighboring town called “Wolf Creek,” which was
the site of a Native American village, and a battle between the
Pottawattomi and the Fox.
Part of the story revolves around the legend of Pau-koo-shuck,
the son of Aubenaubee, and actually there I ended up using (more or less
by accident) several details mentioned in the histories,
including that Aubenaubee lived for several hours after
Pau-koo-shuck attacked him, and that white folks reburied
Aubenaubee and piled stones over him. And I moved one of the
Fulton County round barns up to the east side of the lake.
Then there are some games with names. Several of the characters,
all noted, I hope, in the Author's Note, have the names of real
people—friends or colleagues of mine, including Dr. Davies, of the
Culver history faculty. There are several references to the
Trout family of Indianapolis having cottages on the lake,
whereas historically we had the /vonnegut_ Nanette_Schnull.htms here, and Kurt
/vonnegut_ Nanette_Schnull.htm invents a fictitious hack novelist called “Kilgore
Trout.” There is one reference to two Indiana political families
having been associated with Annandale, and the Bayh and Quayle
names have both appeared on rosters at Culver at one point or
another. And there are just some nods to local figures, like a
couple of references, as you noticed, to your own Voreis
ancestors, or one to Ellis Licht and his pie business — we're
sort of related, through the Decks and the Duddlesons. One or
two things are more elaborate — at one point Jonathan refers the first wife
of the founder of a neighboring town
being named “Bertha,” which is a reference to the mad first wife of Mr. Rochester,
in
Jane Eyre. |
Q: How did you decide what changes to make in the local places and lore?
Obviously some of that was a matter of what fit in well with the plot
of the story (such as establishing an Anglican Abbey just off of East Shore). |
A: Right, some things were required by the plot; on the other hand, a
lot of others were just whims. CMA had barracks named “Argonne”
and “Chateau Thierry”—now rather gruesome names for girls'
dorms—whereas Annandale has “Ypres” and “Verdun,” all four
being battles of World War I. CT and Argonne were
appropriate for CMA because they were major battles for Pershing's
American Expeditionary Force, whereas the battles remembered at
literary Annandale are the ones mentioned in Carl Sandburg's
poem “Grass.” Culver has a Logansport Gate, Annandale has a
Wabash Gate, and so on. In a few cases, I wanted to avoid
trademarks, so Annandale has a “Happy Villa” nursing home.
There are a few places in the published version of the book where all this
renaming got out of hand, so that the fictional “Glenarm's Bay”
appears once as the actual “Aubenaubee Bay,” for example. |
Q: In the back of the book, you cite Meredith Nicholson's well-known novel, The
House of a Thousand Candles, which is rather famous locally for having been set
in a fictionalized version of Culver. In fact, you chose to keep Nicholson's
fictional name, Annandale, for Culver. Can you talk about that book, its impact
on you, and how you see your book fitting into the legacy of The House of a
Thousand Candles? |
A: Well, when I was growing up, I thought it was the neatest thing in
the world that my town had been the setting for a novel, much
less that the novel connected to a particular house here in
town. When I was just a kid, my Dad used to mow lawns at couple
of the old /vonnegut_ Nanette_Schnull.htm cottages , including "The House of a
Thousand Candles," so I remember being in and around the
buildings. And a copy of Nicholson's book was the first thing I ever
bought at an auction, when I was in sixth grade or so. I had to
take a bushel basket full of old books to get the one I wanted.
Actually, the story of the second copy of the book I bought is
even better—I was walking past the shop window of a men's
clothing store down in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, on my way home
from the grocery — and there it was being used as a prop in the display.
So I went in and offered them $10 for the book — which was a good
deal less than they would have asked for anything else in the
window. The clerk had to go into the back to check with the
manager, but pretty soon I was on my way home with a loaf of
bread, a gallon of milk and a second copy of the book.
Anyway, when I decided to tell a story about a fictional version
of Culver, it just seemed natural to use the one that already
existed. In fact, part of the story takes place in the House of
a Thousand Candles, and the narrator actually comments that
Nicholson wrote his novel there — so the real Nicholson shows up
even in this second-hand version of his fiction, if I can put
it that way. I guess part of what I was feeling was a kind of
Hoosier pride — saying to my readers, if there are any, that look,
there's a lot more to Indiana writing than just this little story — if
they
go back to The House of a Thousand Candles, which is still a
good read, though it may not be Great Literature, they may also
read Booth Tarkington's The Magnificent Ambersons—which
was a movie by Orson Welles, starring Tim Holt (who was CMA
Class of '36 and also appeared in Spirit of Culver ), and has
since been made into
a 2002 mini-series from Welles's original script—or Theodore Dreiser's
Sister Carrie or American Tragedy.
Not that I'm claiming to be in the same league with the
“Hoosier Renaissance,” nor even to have read a lot of the writing
myself — but I'm happy if Rough Magicke points back to those authors
and that “Golden Age” in Indiana history |
Q: An interesting thing about this book, besides of course its local
content, is that there's a lot of variety in what's going on in the story
and even in the genre of fiction it occupies. It's not a book
that's easy to pin down; there are elements of mystery,
fantasy, adventure, intrigue, and suspense, but there are also
a lot of intellectually stimulating elements of history,
theology, liturgy, and even literary references in the story. Can
you generally discuss the story itself and the varying elements of style
going on in it? |
A: You're right, it is hard to categorize. There's a place on the back
cover where the genre is supposed to be stated, and the book
designer and the publisher and I had to try several times
before we settled on whatever it actually says now... Fantasy
(Contemporary, Epic), I think it is, and I'm still not sure
about “Epic.” But I did want there to be more to it than just a
fantasy story: I mean, I hope that a person can pick it up and have a good
read, but at the same time that there will be things to attract
the readers' attention, whether to make them think, “I wonder
where that came from?” or just to say “That's an interesting
question.”
I guess if the genre or style of the book is more like one thing
than another, it's probably in the tradition of a couple of English
authors from the first part of the last century, Charles
Williams and Dorothy Sayers. Williams wrote supernatural
thrillers set against a background of ordinary city or country
England, which is sort of the pattern of what happens in Rough
Magicke; and Dorothy Sayers writes detective stories full of
philosophical questions and literary references, which is somewhat
like the style of RM. |
Q: The main character of the plot, an Episcopal chaplain of the Academies,
is at least somewhat autobiographical, yes? How are you and Father Mears
like and different? |
A: Oh, we're very different: Jonathan likes classic Coke and I like
Diet, for example. But, no, seriously, there are obviously some
autobiographical elements in Jonathan — even his name, Mears, comes
from the family name of John and James Houghton's mother's
family. Jonathan's family founded the town of Annandale, as the
Houghton's were in on the ground floor of Culver. Jonathan and I
have had similar educations at AMA/CMA, Harvard and Yale,
though he came home to Annandale straight out his version of
Yale/Berkeley and never went to IU or Notre Dame. But obviously Jonathan
is, as the story starts, an experienced Anglican priest,
whereas I'm just now beginning the ordination process; then,
too, a certain amount of the plot revolves around Jonathan's
brother and niece, whereas I grew up as an only child. |
Q: You've set up a website,
annandalemilitary. com , that actually "pretends" to be the
real website of the actual Annandale Military Academy, which
could be a fun read for local folks. Can you talk a bit about
what's on that site? |
A: Yes, well, as an English teacher, I have to say that one thing on
the site is a page of corrections to all the mistakes I've
noticed since the book went to the printer! But I'm not sure
that counts as a fun read, except in some cruel sense. Besides
that, there are some things that are meant as aids to reading
the book — a genealogical chart of the Mearses, a dictionary of
some of the Annandale campus slang, a map of the Annandale area, and a
campus map. The campus map also has photos of some of the Annandale
buildings — the First Class Club, for instance, which has a
strange resemblance to the Carnegie Library, or the Memorial
Building, which is based on Herstmonceux Castle in England
(which is also the model for the Culver Legion Memorial). The
AMA naval building is actually the Royal Naval Museum in
Greenwich, England. There's a page, too, with links to real world
things that are mentioned in the book, so that the reader can go off and
read about the real Mears family, or see a picture of things
referred to in the story. Oh, and in the slide show on the
first page, one of the pictures shows two of the real people
who have characters named after them, Richard Platt and Rob
English.
Besides those sorts of things, there's a school song, to the
tune of “Scots Wha Ha'e Wi' Wallace Bled” (complete with a synthesized
bagpipe accompaniment) and of course a school tartan and coat of
arms, and even a school plant (rosemary, as it turns out). The
English Department and the Religion and Philosophy Department
have course descriptions posted, though again you have to
wonder what kind of person would find those “fun,” exactly.
And there's a Chapel page with some actual sermons and links to
some resources on spirituality and daily prayer — I thought I ought to
include something edifying for anyone who wanted to poke
through that far. |
Q: Lastly, how can people get their hands on Rough Magicke? |
A: It can be ordered on-line from Amazon.com and Barnesandnoble.com,
and most bookstores can order it for a person, as well (the
website has, under the Quartermaster's Store section, a sheet
that you can print out and take to the bookstore with specific
directions). Also, Mary's Shoppe on Main Street in Culver will
be stocking the book. |