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Hervey Bates Jr/II (1834 - 1929)  



Hervey Bates Sr. & Jr. Tombstones do not bear an suffix only Henry Bates the III Hervey Bates Jr. used Hervey, Hervey Jr. and Hevery II; Hervey III used also Hervey and Hervey Jr. - biographies, newspapers articles and census and vital records use a variety of the suffix's



Hervey Bates Sr (1795 - 1876)

Ninety-five years ago every person then living within the limits of Marion county knew Hervey Bates, most of them personally. If the same name is not known so universally in the county at the present time it is merely due to the physical impossibility of any one man to have a personal acquaintance with several hundred thousand people. At the present time there are living in Indianapolis three men named Hervey Bates, grandfather, father and son.

The original Hervey Bates was appointed the first sheriff of Marion county by Governor Jennings in 1822. His appointment came before he had taken up his residence in Marion county.

Hervey Bates was born at Old Fort Washington, now Cincinnati, Ohio, in 1795. He was given his father's name, so that the name Hervey has persisted through at least five successive generations of the family.


Hervey Bates Sr., served under Generals Wayne and Harmer as "Master of Transportation" during the Indiana Wars in the Northwest. His duties were in forward provisions and mutations of war from the frontier posts to the soldiers at the front.

Sheriff Bates through the early death of his mother and the remarriage of his father went to Warren, Ohio, where he grew up and received his early education. At the age of twenty-one he went to Brookville, Indiana, and there met and fell in love with Miss Sidney Sedgwick, a cousin of Gen. James Noble, one of the most conspicuous early charactersin Indiana history. Owing to parental objections the young couple ran away and were married.

In 1816, at Brookville, Hervey Bates cast his first vote. This was for a delegate in form a constitution for the new state of Indiana.

A short time later he removed with his young wife to Connersville, and from there in 1822 came to Indianapolis, which was then a mere site in the wilderness, deriving its importance from the fact that it had been established as the future capital of Indiana. The town consisted of only a small collection of log cabins.

As the first sheriff of Marion county, Hervey Bates issued a proclamation calling for an election in the county. Hervey Bates was not so much of a politician as he was a business man, and for many years he was prominent as a pioneer merchant of Indianapolis. a business which gave him a substantial fortune.

His name is associated with many of the first undertakings and institutions of Indianapolis.

He was the first president of the "Branch of the State Bank" at Indianapolis and filled that office ten years. He was also instrumental in the formation of the earliest insurance company, was a stockholder in the first hotel corporation, and in the first railroad finished to the capital. He was identified with the first Gas, Light & Coke Company an din many other enterprises having for their object the public welfare. He was a member of the Masonic lodge of Indianapolis.

In 1852 Hervey Bates began the erection of what became known far and wide as the Bates House, one of the foremost hotels of its day. Hervey Bates possessed a vast amount of energy, mental and physical, and with it came the rugged honesty that made his name as long as he lived a synonym of integrity.

His death occurred July 6, 1876, at the age of eighty-one.

He and his wife had three children, their only-son being Hervey Bates.

Hervey Bates, the second of the name to have lived in Indianapolis, was born in this city in 1834. He inherited many of the characteristics that made his father a man of note. He grew up in Indianapolis and it has always been his home. For many years he was connected with one of the first wholesale grocery houses and was also an active banker. He was one of the originators of the American Hominy Company. Of late years he has been retired and has attained the age of eighty-three. As a matter of personal recollections he has practically witnessed every phase in the growth and development of this native city. He married Charlotte Cathcart, and they were parents of a son and a daughter.

Hervey Bates III was born at Indianapolis in October, 1858. He was educated in the city public schools, in the Phillips Exeter Academy and in Harvard University. He began his career through experience as an apprentice at the machinist's trade and for a number of years was connected with the Atlas Engine Works. Mr. Bates has served almost from this beginning as president of the American Hominy Company, one of the large and important industries of Indianapolis. In 1891 he married Susan Martingale. Of their two children the only survivor is Hervey Bates, representing the fourth generation of the name in Indiana.

Indiana and Indianans : a history of aboriginal and territorial Indiana and the century of statehood Chicago: American Historical Society, 1919, Dunn, Jacob Piatt, pg. 1697-8

Combines two nineteenth-century architectural styles. Built 1850s-1860 in Italianate Style. Later additions in Second Empire Style. Owners included Hervey Bates, Sr., first Marion County sheriff, Thomas A. Hendricks, U.S. vice president, and John Coburn, U.S. congressman. Listed in National Register of Historic Places, 1976.

This is not the same Bates House. The location of "Lincoln's" Bates House was at the intersection of Washington and Illinois Streets in Downtown Indianapolis. That Bates House burned in 1889 and was rebuilt, then was demolished in 1901 to make way for the Claypool Hotel (completed 1903).


-Hervey Bates, Indianapolis banker and businessman, saw opportunity for providing housing accommodations for transients en route west. In 1852 workers broke ground on the northwest corner of Washington and Illinois streets and the four-storied Bates House, decorated in Victorian style,was completed in 1853 at a cost of $75,000.00. Its cost of $2.00/room/day, including meals, proved attractive to travelers, including President-elect Abraham Lincoln. He overnighted on 11 February 1861 when he was en route toWashington, D.C. for his First Inaugural. In a speech from the Washington Street balcony of the hotel he called for the preservation of the Union. The following day Hoosier Governor Oliver P. Morton hosted the President at breakfast at the hotel. In time the Bates House languished and the hotel was razed in 1901.


Hervey Bates Birth: Jan. 25, 1795 Fort Washington, Cincinatti, Hamilton, Ohio Death: Jul. 6, 1876 {Indianapolis, Marion, Indiana } Burial: Crown Hill Cemetery Indianapolis, Marion County, Indiana Son of Daniel Bates and Mary /Kitchell

married 7 Mar 1819 (marriage Licence) Brookville, Franklin, Indiana Sidney Sedgwick Birth: Jul. 27, 1798 Death: Feb. 27, 1872 Burial: Crown Hill Cemetery Indianapolis, Marion County, Indiana Daughter of John Sedgwick and Janette Kent
    Died – Bates – On Tuesday morning, February 27, at 7 ½ o’clock, Sidney Bates, wife of Hervey, sen, in the seventy-fourth year of her age.

    Funeral will take place from her late residence corner of Market and New Jersey streets, on Thursday morning at half-past ten. Services by the Rev. J. H. Morrow - Indianapolis Evening Journal Tuesday, February 27, 1872, Indianapolis, Indiana


Children:
    Katherine Rebecca Bates (____ - 1826) Death: Oct. 22, 1826 Buried Crown Hill Cemetery Indianapolis Marion County Indiana

    Mary Jane Bates (1820 - 1891)Birth: Nov. 20, 1820, Death: Dec. 28, 1891 Fort Wayne Allen County Indiana married Brookville, Franklin, Indiana Lawrence Martin Vance Birth: Jul. 16, 1816 Ohio Death: Mar. 22, 1863 Cincinnati Hamilton County Ohio Both Buried Crown Hill Cemetery Indianapolis Marion County Indiana

    Elizabeth H. Bates (1828 - 1873) Birth: Sep. 26, 1828 Indiana Death: Dec. 16, 1873 Buried Crown Hill Cemetery Indianapolis Marion County Indiana

    Ellen Irene Bates (1833 - 1839) Birth: Feb., 1833 Death: Sep. 9, 1839 Buried Crown Hill Cemetery Indianapolis Marion County Indiana

    Hervey Bates (1834 - 1929)


Hervey Bates Jr/II (1834 - 1929)

... Hervey Bates, the second of the name to have lived in Indianapolis, was born in this city in 1834. He inherited many of the characteristics that made his father a man of note. He grew up in Indianapolis and it has always been his home. For many years he was connected with one of the first wholesale grocery houses and was also an active banker. He was one of the originators of the American Hominy Company. Of late years he has been retired and has attained the age of eighty-three. As a matter of personal recollections he has practically witnessed every phase in the growth and development of this native city. He married Charlotte Cathcart, and they were parents of a son and a daughter.- Indiana and Indianans: a history of aboriginal and territorial Indiana and the century of statehood Chicago: American Historical Society, 1919, Dunn, Jacob Piatt, pg. 1697-8

He servied in the Civil War - 132nd Indiana Infantry in the American Civil War... Maj., Hervey Bates, Jr. This regiment was organized at Indianapolis May 17, 1864. Seven companies of the regiment were raised in Indianapolis and one each at Shelbyville, Franklin and Danville. It was mustered in May 18, and left the state at once, going to Tennessee. It was mustered out in Aug., 1864. Its total strength was 948. Loss by death, 5. - - Regimental history taken from "The Union Army" by Federal Publishing Company, 1908 - Volume 3

On the northeast corner of 13th and Delaware The architect was William LeBaron Jenney .The elaborate grand Romanesque chateau was conceived by Hervey Bates, Jr, and wife after a trip to the Loire Valley in France. The ultimate construction cost of the house was estimated at #80,000, in 1874.


That, of course, was in addition to the thousands to purchase the 200 x 195 (R.B. and J. S. Duncan addition) lot upon which the castle was built. The interior is described in detail in Hester Anne Hale’s book, Indianapolis in the First Century


“On the first floor also, were the drawing room, music room, billiard room, den, and kitchen. On the second floor belonged to the family, of course. Ellenore, the Bates daughter, who was about fourteen when the family moved into the house But perhaps the finest feature in the mansion was the ballroom, large enough for fifty couples and an orchestra. Adjoining the ballroom was a small anteroom from which the Bates served when they lived there. An unusual little room, it had a platform in a bay window and a ceiling that rose to a peak. It truly was a grand mansion.”


The earliest known photos of the home show a long wood frame porch on the south side of the home. Later photos show the removal of this porch.


Four families occupied the home following the Bates family, who lived there until the fall of 1880, it was sold it to Elijah B. Martindale, who sold it the following day to Dr. Horace Allen and his wife, Harriet (owned it 16 years). It was sold to David M. Parry and his wife; they changed the driveway from the south to north side of the home and the city’s address numbering changed that of this home from 679 to 1305 North Delaware Street till 1903.

It was The sold to the Hugh McGowan family in 1903 as noted as the "Hugh McGowan residence" on this 1908 post card. By then the wood porch ben removed and the addition of a porte cochere, that was later enclosed


The widow sold it in 1919 to the Knights of Columbus for a fraction of its worth. And this generous, but tragic choice led to the demolition of one of the most storied, beautiful and worthy homes in the city of Indianapolis the grand McGowan Home (aka Bates) was torn down in 1963 due to the decline and disbursement of membership accompanied by the construction of newer K of C halls in the sprawling suburbs, rising maintenance costs, and a contemporary climate placing little emphasis on historic preservation


Alterations occoured to the building over the years all that remains standing today is an auditorium addition built in 1922 and shows how it was attached and was postion in relation to the original house; today known as McGowan Hall.
Hervey Bates (1834 - 1929) President Indianapolis Hominy Mills
Men of Indiana in nineteen hundred and one
by Benesch, Adolph B
Published 1901 Publisher Indianapolis, Ind., Cleveland, O., The Benesch publishing company


Hervey Bates Jr/II Birth: Aug 14 1834 Indianapolis, Marion County, Indiana/Franklin, Indiana Death: January 25, 1929 Pasadena, Los Angeles County, California Buried APR 30,1929 Crown Hill Cemetery Indianapolis Marion County Indiana son of Hervey Bates and Sidney Sedgwick

1929 - Jan 30 - Hervey Bates, Pioneer Cottager, Died at 97
    This community lost one of the lovers of Lake Maxinkuckee when Hevery Bates, 97,, died lastweek in Pasadena, California. - Culver Citizen

    Mr. Bates had been coming to the lake every year for a long time and only sold his two cottages about a year ago when he became to feeble to make the trip each summer.

    He was a Member of the pioneer family of Indianapolis, his father being the first sheriff of Marion county. He also owned the Bates House, which later became known as the Claypool Hote. It was from the balcomy of the Bates HOuse that President Lincoln spoke during the Civil Wa. when he was in Indianapolis

    Mr. Bates is survived by one son and one daughter. - Culver Citizen


BURY BATES TUESDAY
    Pasadena - The body of Hervey Bates. Jr A pioneer resident of Indianapolis and former owner, of the old Bates house, who died January 25 at his home In Pasadena, CaL, win be brought to Indianapolis for burial Crown Hill cemetery Tuesday.

    The body will be accompanied by Mrs. John Perrin, a daughter of Mr. Bates, and Mr. Perrin. Hervey Perrin and Hervey Bates III.

    Mr. Bates's father was the founder of the old Bates house, which was situated on the site of the present Claypool hoteL Mr. Bates went to Pasadena ten years ago to make his home. - - The Indianapolis News Date: Friday, April 26, 1929 Page: Page 34


married 28 Oct 1857 Marion county Indiana Charlotte "Lottie" T. Cathcart (1838 - 1907) was from Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Birth: April 25, 1838 Philadelphia, Philadelphia, PA Death: August 10, 1907 Union twp. Marshall County, Indiana Buried Crown Hill Cemetery Indianapolis Marion County Indiana daughter of Andrew Cathcart and Ellen Weir
    To Be Buried In City
      Mrs. Charlotte Cathcart Bates’ Funeral at Her Summer Home

      The funeral of Mrs. Charlotte Cathcart Bates, wife of Major Hervey Bates, 402 N Meridian St will be held at her summer home at Lake Maxinkuckee, Tueday.

      The body will be brought to Indianapolis for burial at Crown hill cemetery.

      Both the funeral and burial will be private.

      Mrs. Bates spent her girlhood in Philadelphia, but since her marriage to Major Bates she has been constantly as resident of Indianapolis. She was married at the age of 18.

      Her father was Andrew Cathcart, a Scotchman, who came to this city to superintend the building of the railroad between Madison and Indianapolis, the first railroad in Indiana. He invented the cogwheel engine, used in climbing the hill just this side of Madison.

      Mrs. Bates was highly cultured. She was a graduate of the Miss Guilford school at Cleveland, O. While she lived in Indianapolis she was an active member of the Catherine Merrill club, and a constant student of literature. - Indianapolis Sun Monday, August 12, 1907, Indianapolis, Indiana


Children:
    1) Hervey Bates III/Jr.

    2) Ellenor Cathcart Bates Birth: October 14, 1859 Franklin, Indiana Death: April 17, 1948 Los Angeles, California Burial: Crown Hill Cemetery Indianapolis, Marion County, Indian married 3 Oct 1883 John O Perrin Birth: January 17, 1857 Franklin, Indiana, USA Death: December 1931
      PERRIN ELLENOR BATES 10/14/1859 CATHCART BATES F INDIANA LOS ANGELES(19) 04/17/1948 88 yrs

      Children:
      1) Hervey Bates Perrin

      2) John Bates Perrin b 16 Jan 1887; d 29 Oct 1913


Hervey Bates III/Jr (1858 - 1939)

...Hervey Bates III was born at Indianapolis in October, 1858. He was educated in the city public schools, in the Phillips Exeter Academy and in Harvard University. He began his career through experience as an apprentice at the machinist's trade and for a number of years was connected with the Atlas Engine Works. Mr. Bates has served almost from this beginning as president of the American Hominy Company, one of the large and important industries of Indianapolis. In 1891 he married Susan Martingale. Of their two children the only survivor is Hervey Bates, representing the fourth generation of the name in Indiana. - Indiana and Indianans : a history of aboriginal and territorial Indiana and the century of statehood Chicago: American Historical Society, 1919, Dunn, Jacob Piatt, pg. 1697-8

Hervey Bates Jr. (1858 - 1939) Treasurer Indianapolis Hominy Mills
Men of Indiana in nineteen hundred and one
by Benesch, Adolph B
Published 1901 Publisher Indianapolis, Ind., Cleveland, O., The Benesch publishing company


Hervey Bates III Birth: October 1, 1858 Indianapolis, Marion County, Indiana Death: 1939 Santa Barbara, California Place of Burial: Crown Hill Cemetery, Indianapolis, Marion County, Indiana

married Susan Martindale Birth: April 14, 1859 Indianapolis, Marion county Indiana Death: October 10, 1925 Harbor Springs Emmet County, Michigan daughter of Elijah Bishop Martindale and Emaline Taylor Burial: Crown Hill Cemetery (Plot: 8 1), Indianapolis, Marion County, Indiana
    Two Cottagers Die
    ... Mrs Hervey Bates Passed Away Saturday

    Mrs. Harvey Bates also died last Saturday. She was at her home in Harbor Springs, Michigan. Funeral services were conducted yesterday in Indianapolis at the home of her brother, Charles Martindale. Mrs Bates lived in Indianapolis until recently where the family moved to Pasadena, Calif. She was a member of an old and prominent family of the state. She is survived by her husband and a son Hervey Bates the third...


Children:
    1) Emily Martha Bates Birth: 1891 Death: 1893 Burial: Crown Hill Cemetery Indianapolis Marion County Indiana, USA Plot: 8 1

    2) Hervey Bates, IV (III/Jr) Birth Date: 9 Jul 1894 Indianapolis, Marion county Indiana Death Date: 27 Nov 1939 Santa Barbara, California BUrial: Crown Hill Cemetery Indianapolis, Marion County, Indiana married 1st 1 Sep 1920 Marion county Indiana Mary Lucille Hayes Birth: circa July 24, 1899 Logansport, Cass county Indiana Death: January 11, 1996 {Bronx, Bronx, New York} daughter of John E Hays /Hayes and Grace L Button ; married 2nd Kathryn Louise Ford Birth: November 10, 1902 Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio Death: January 4, 1975 Santa Barbara, California Burial: Crown Hill Cemetery (Plot: 8 1), Indianapolis, Marion County, Indiana daughter of William L Ford and Jessie F Leonard married 3rd before 1930 Eileene/Earline B --- Birth: 1898 Missouri; married 2nd 26 Nov. 1934 Chicago, Cook county, Illinois Grace (Wasson) McKee Birth: April 12, 1875 Death: January 18, 1938 Pasadena, California Burial: Crown Hill Cemetery (Plot: 8 1), Indianapolis, Marion County, Indiana she married 1st Edward Lodge McKee Birth: March 13, 1856 Madison, Jefferson, IN Death: September 20, 1929 (73) Indianapolis, Marion Burial: Crown Hill Cemetery (Plot: Sec: 13 Lot: 17), Indianapolis, Marion County, Indiana Son of Robert S. McKee and Celine Elizabeth Lodge y had Macy Celine McKee; Macy Celine Mckee; Elizabeth McKee; Edward Lodge Mckee, Jr; Elizabeth Lodge Mckee; Infant Daughter McKee and Hiram Wasson Mckee daughter of Hiram P. Wasson and Amanda Morris H. P. Wasson was founder of the "famous" Wasson Department Store that sat on the circle in Indianapolis for many years.
      MARRIAGE of Mrs. Edward L. McKee and Hervey Bates of Los Angeles, Cal.. took place yesterday in Chicago. Hiram McKee and Mrs. Charles W. Merrill attended the ceremonv. Mr. and Mrs. Bates have gone to California, where they will live. The Indianapolis Star Tuesday, November 27, 1934 Page: Page 6

      Mrs. Grace Wasson Bates, 62 years old, daughter of the founder of H P. Wasson & Co., died in Huntington Memorial Hospital at Pasadena, Cal., Wednesday night, relatives here were informed yesterday.

      A resident of Indianapolis almost all her life, she was active in Wednesday night, relatives here were informed yesterday.

      A resident of Indianapolis almost all her life, she was active in many civic and social organizations.

      She had been in California about two months. She and her husband, Hervey Bates Jr., went there late in November.

      Funeral This Afternoon. Survivors are the husband and two sons, Hiram Wasson McKee of Indianapolis and Maj. Edward L. McKee of Santa Monica, Cal.

      Her first husband, Edward Lodge McKee, was president and founder of the old Merchants Heat and Light Company here and later vice-president of the Indiana National Bank.

      Funeral services will be held this afternoon-in Pasadena. - - January 21, 1938 The Indianapolis Star from Indianapolis Indiana · Page 14







Indianapolis City Directory, 1890. Indianapolis, IN: R.L. Polk and Co., 1889 & 1890.

Name: Hervey Bates
City: Indianapolis
State: IN Occupation: president
Year: 1889 & 1890
Business Name: Romona Colitic Stone Co
Location 2: Bates House

Name: Hervey Bates, Jr
Location 1: southwest corner Jeffersonville, Madison and Indianapolis Railroad R R and Palmer
City: Indianapolis
State: IN
Occupation: proprietor
Year: 1889
Business Name: Indpls Hominy
Location 2: 898 N Illinois

Name: Hervey Bates, Jr
Location 1: corner Jeffersonville, Madison and Indianapolis Railroad R R and Palmer
City: Indianapolis
State: IN Occupation: proprietor
Year: 1889 & 1890
Business Name: Indianapolis Hominy Mills

Name: Hervey Bates; Walter Kessler; M W Malott; Hervey Bates, Jr
Location 1: 15 Ingalls Block
City: Indianapolis
State: IN
Occupation: president; vice-president and mngr; secretary; treasurer
Year: 1889 & 1890
Business Name: Romona Colitic Stone Co

Name: Hervey Bates, Jr
City: Indianapolis
State: IN
Occupation: proprietor; treasurer
Year: 1890
Business Name: Indpls Hominy Mills; Romona Oolitic Stone Co
Location 2: 898 N Illinois







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